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AN: I think my subconscious and I need to have a chat. Because…Leoben? REALLY?

Man, Hamlet has been ripped off by almost everyone! I had a quick look over the “To Be or Not To Be” speech to refresh my memory and it’s pretty much a string of episode titles! And also very fitting for this show.

Spoilers: Blood on the Scales

Rating: All in.

Characters: Roslin, Leoben

Disclaimer: Obviously, not mine.

Summary: He was, after all, her very first.

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Be All My Sins Remember'd

Leoben is the only one who will meet her eyes. Leoben, who took their side and ran from Cavil and hasn’t fallen to pieces under the pressure. Leoben, who pushed Starbuck so far past her breaking point that she entered into supernova willingly. Leoben, who held her tightly in his arms and whispered that Bill Adama was a Cylon.

She’d never told him, Bill, about that. About how she was going to order Leoben shot, or maybe drawn and quartered, or maybe just let Kara decide, until he spoke the final quiet poison in her ear and she snapped. But things she’ll never tell Bill is a dangerous subject, and when she’s come back to herself, Leoben is still watching her.

She leaves, disgusted, and goes back to the Raptor, back to what might be the last piece of the Fleet she ever touches, to fiddle with dials and cast her voice into the stars in the hope that someone overhears.

She hears a step behind her and wonders if the pilot who is not quite Athena wants her Raptor back. When she turns, she sees that it is Leoben instead. He holds a large black box in his hands and his face speaks volumes as to the unsurety of his welcome.

“I wonder, sometimes, how much space there is between an idea of a thing and the acceptance of a thing,” he says, not quite conversationally.

“Space is big,” she replies without thinking. “But we found Earth.”

He laughs, pulling air through his teeth and she remembers serpents amongst the microphones and vipers spiraling through the black.

“You trust Sharon.” It is not quite a question.

“I trust Athena,” the answer comes quickly, “I didn’t understand at first, but the more of you I see, the more I see that she is different.”

“I’m the same one.” He meets her eyes again and she doesn’t flinch. “I fought Adama right after the worlds ended, and you threw me out an airlock. The things I did to Kara…”

“I wondered,” was all she said.

“Things have changed. We’ve all changed. And we weren’t supposed to. We had a plan, a mission from God, but the Hybrid was different and when I listened to her, things made more sense for a while.

“I wanted you to die,” he continued. “And now I want us to live.”

“That, Leoben, is something we have in common.” Laura smiled at him. “Please, come in.”

Leoben stepped off the ramp and joined her in the belly of the Raptor. He balanced the box upon his knee, and showed her how to get ideas through all the space between and into the ears of her people. They didn’t touch, and they didn’t speak of unpragmatic things until after Gaeta had finally succeeded in shutting them up again.

Then…

“Do you still believe?”

“More than ever.”

“Me too."

"That’s what scares me the most.”

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fin

AN: Writing Laura is HARD because she communicates with all those gestures and facial expressions I just don’t have words for!

Gravity_Not_Included, February 10, 2009

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Also, a BSG fic rec. I still am not entirely pleased with the ending of BotS, but if it had been ANYTHING like this, I think my head might have exploded.

A Prayer for Felix Gaeta

I am reccing a BALTAR fic. That should tell you everything you need to know about how awesome it is.

Date: 2009-02-10 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cnidarian.livejournal.com
I can tell you what I thought of it again, here, if you like?

Date: 2009-02-10 06:09 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
Hee! The smiley face indicated my attempt at humour, I thought. Perhaps it should have been a wink...;)

Thanks for the lightning beta!

Date: 2009-02-10 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cnidarian.livejournal.com
Ack sorry. Yes, the smiley was making it a friendly poke only.

Welcome. It wasn't exactly a hardship to read and I figure that cheerleading of any description is a good thing. *bounces a bit in anticipation* Are we hoping for a later slot in the whole summer story roster?

Date: 2009-02-10 06:21 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
OH GOD, yes.

I really do plan to write it.

Date: 2009-02-19 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cnidarian.livejournal.com
Kate! Random question:

if I were to use "And Nothing But" (or perhaps just "Nothing But") as a title for a little story about truth, would that make sense or is it too obscure?

Also, not so random: ARE YOU WRITING, YOUNG LADY? ;)

Date: 2009-02-19 01:26 am (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
I would go with "And Nothing But".

And...no. Planning! But not writing. Although I will be fairly sedentary for the forseeable future, so there's HOPE.

(I also plan to learn to vid, so I figure either I'll get frustrated and write or I'll love it and not write. Everyone's a winner! Or something...)

Date: 2009-02-19 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cnidarian.livejournal.com
Yes, I almost didn't ask you cos I know you've been wandering Canada recently and making cake. But planning is good! And vid making is...scary? I'd be terrified, but then a) I'd also be terrified at the prospect of 50k and b) I don't have 3 vidding friends. Good luck with it!

Date: 2009-02-10 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccatoria.livejournal.com
Wow, interesting stuff!

I know exactly what you mean about how much Laura communicates through gestures and expressions, but I recognised her here. I think you did a good job of conveying her understated...complexity.

And you did really well with Leoben and his spiritual half-non-sequitors. I mean, I've always loved the dude, but frak me if I ever really understood him. But his behaviour here makes sense.

Great chilling exchange to end on.

Date: 2009-02-10 07:13 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
I was nervous about the Leoben bits, to be honest, because I wasn't sure if he was real (unreal) enough, so I am glad to hear it!

Great chilling exchange to end on.

My favourite part of that is that typically when I trot out that trick, I know who's talking, but I leave it deliberately ambiguous. THIS time, however, it was on the paper and I have NO IDEA who is talking!

Date: 2009-02-10 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beccatoria.livejournal.com
OMG, you know, I feel like such a dork but I totally didn't even notice that. I completely subconsciously assumed that it was Laura asking if he still believed, and Leoben saying he did more than ever, and Laura replying that it scared her.

I don't know why; I guess I just felt that was in keeping with where their characters were at that point. But you're right, you can flip it around and it still totally works. Awesome.

Date: 2009-02-10 10:03 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
Every time I reread it, I am all "Oh it's totally [whichever one I didn't pick last time]"

ETA: Question. If it was:

"Do you still believe?"
"More than ever."
"Me too."
"That's what scares me the most."

Do you think it would be better? Less ambiguous? Would it at all change your read of the sitch?

Date: 2009-02-10 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eldanna.livejournal.com
I have no idea how to write Laura. But good job!

Date: 2009-02-10 07:56 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
Thank you. I reached the "please, come in" part before it really hit me, because I wanted one of those handwaves she gives when she doesn't really give a shit about you, but feels compelled to care. You know?

Date: 2009-02-10 08:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
Gods, this show!

Date: 2009-02-12 05:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] emmiere.livejournal.com
Mhmm, very nice voices here for both of them.

I adore that last exchange, I read it the first time as Leoben asking Laura if she believes, but I like it the other way too. :D

Date: 2009-02-12 02:25 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
I adore that last exchange, I read it the first time as Leoben asking Laura if she believes, but I like it the other way too. :D

Usually when I write these things, I have some sort of idea who is talking, but this time? No clue.

Thanks for the review!

Date: 2009-02-12 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theastolat.livejournal.com
The relationship between Laura and Leoben is unfairly overlooked in my opinion. Yes, Leoben has his fascination with Kara, but let's not forget he was the man of Laura's dreams first. ^_^

I'm hoping for an extensive and meaningful scene between these characters in the episodes to come. Something that acknowledges the moments of tension they've shared between Seer and Prophet.

Really loved this.

Date: 2009-02-12 02:28 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
The relationship between Laura and Leoben is unfairly overlooked in my opinion.

There are a lot of overlooked relationships on this show, which is probably inevitable when you have a large cast and 20 episodes to get stuff done! Which is why we have fic. :)

Thanks for reading!

Date: 2009-02-12 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theastolat.livejournal.com
I really meant that their relationship was overlooked by fic writers. So it's nice to see a fic about them.

Date: 2009-02-12 02:33 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
Oh! Well then, you're welcome. ;)

Date: 2009-02-12 02:01 pm (UTC)
ext_10249: (ftw)
From: [identity profile] nicole-anell.livejournal.com
Lovely, subtle, perfect voices for both of them. Great fic!

Date: 2009-02-12 02:28 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
*blushes*

Thanks!

Date: 2009-02-12 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunny-serenity.livejournal.com
WIN! Total, absolute, brilliant WIN. Cos she AIRLOCKED him for frak's sake and he provided the means for her success. Leoben & Laura's shaky yet unspoken alliance and understanding was one of the highlights of this ep for me.

Date: 2009-02-15 05:48 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-02-12 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rose-griffes.livejournal.com
Oh, I really enjoyed this. Especially that Leoben is still so enigmatic.

Date: 2009-02-15 05:49 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
Writing Leoben made me a bit nervous until I realized I could pretty much say whatever I wanted and let the atmosphere take care of it for me. :)

Thanks!

Date: 2009-02-13 02:57 am (UTC)
ext_18106: (Callandra Tyrol pwns everyone)
From: [identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com
I KEEP TRYING to, y'know, leave feedback. BECAUSE I HAVE THOUGHTS. But they are usually dead and musty by the time I click back to this tab, and I haven't wanted to just say "YAY <3 <3 <3"

I love Laura and Leoben together, I want more, dammit, show!

The complexity of their relationship--I just. They are both believers in their causes, and they're both people who try to take the long view, and he's better at manipulation, but that's because she's not as sneaky, and, ARGH.

I love this.

<3 <3 <3

Date: 2009-02-15 05:49 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
Thanks! And thanks again for the rec.

Date: 2009-02-13 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skara-brae.livejournal.com
This was great. There was so much about their interaction in the last ep that just slipped by. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall!!

Date: 2009-02-15 05:50 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
Indeed!

Thanks for the review.

Date: 2009-02-13 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pellucid.livejournal.com
Oh look, LJ ate my first comment. *sigh*

I think this is absolutely lovely, and I particularly love the end. This is another one of those parallel relationships on this show, where they're in each other's orbits, vaguely, yet so rarely interact.

And the line that just screams Laura to me is this one: But things she’ll never tell Bill is a dangerous subject. Just...*flappy hands* That's the Laura I know and love, and I continue to steadfastly believe that she has a long list of things she'll never tell Bill.

Date: 2009-02-15 05:51 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
I hate it when LJ does that.

The thing I liked about "Things she'll never tell Bill" is that I could imply both "I am a crazy, crazy person sometimes" and "OMG HE MIGHT DIE!!!" without actually coming out and saying either. It's the sort of subtlety I used to like about their relationship...

Date: 2011-01-21 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obsessive-a101.livejournal.com
HI! A completely random read/review I know, but this is the second time I've read this, and I've finally strung some coherent thoughts together.

First, you've captured one of my favorite moments of this episode wonderfully, filled in the spaces with context AND the non-contextual (talk about bridging the gaps in between minds), and these two. It just worked splendidly (who'd have guessed?), and the end is a killer.

By the time we as viewers reached the helter-kelter of this half season, it was so easy to forget all that came before, but obviously doesn't work this way (as the mutiny arc itself proved) - for us or for these characters. You can't forget entirely, but it's almost impossible to remember completely. The fact that I can imagine this interaction as you've written it, hear the words exchanged. I love it. :)

Date: 2011-01-21 11:03 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (bsg)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
Hey thanks!

I am not sure why Leoben moved into my head towards the end of my BSG fic writing kick, but I actually liked it more than I thought I would. He has a lot of great moments, and since we get to make a lot of them up, it's even better. :) Plus, Laura's always fun.

My question, then, and this is the question I asked everyone, is who do you think said what at the end of the fic?

Date: 2011-01-21 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obsessive-a101.livejournal.com
Hmm... I think, in my own reading, it never really concerned me who said which, because they coincide in the fact that they both still believe. However, I tend to go with the fact that Leoben is the one who asks the question and the dialogue alternates from there.

My reasoning for this is the fact that in the fic (and scene, if I remember correctly), he seems to tend to be the initiator of all their interactions - approaching her with the box, with the conversation... And she reciprocates by not rejecting (and that's the other thing that fascinates me and really just drives in how much has changed).

Oh! And of note, I agree with [livejournal.com profile] pellucid this, things she’ll never tell Bill is a dangerous subject, was just fantastic. I remember a question from an interview a while back that has always stuck with me in that MM stated there's actually quite a bit that Laura would not tell Bill.

Date: 2011-01-21 11:12 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
Honestly, I have NO IDEA which one of them starts it. I don't even remember if I knew for sure when I wrote it. ;)

Date: 2011-01-21 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obsessive-a101.livejournal.com
LOL! It makes it all the more fun. ;) Have you been keeping score by the way with the responses?

Have you ever read "The Lady, or the Tiger"? I think after that experience (and I actually liked it), I'm pretty zen. XD

Date: 2011-01-21 11:21 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (zen)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
I haven't read The Lady or the Tiger.

Date: 2011-01-21 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obsessive-a101.livejournal.com
It's a short story by Frank R. Stockton from my high school ELA class, and it is... intriguing. Of a sort.

http://www.pagebypagebooks.com/Frank_R_Stockton/The_Lady_or_the_Tiger/The_Lady_or_the_Tiger_p1.html

Date: 2011-01-22 02:06 am (UTC)
ext_1358: (cylon)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
Tiger. :)

I watch too much TV.

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