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I expect this will be a trend.

Having had a few more hours to stew about it:

1. Fili's death. GOOD. LORD. Like, have we EVER seen a good guy die like that in a Jackson film? EVER? I was so unprepared, and I am still really disturbed by it and THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH FIX ITS IN THE WHOLE WORLD (p.s. please rec me a nice fix it).

2. They all died alone. Fans have spent two years torturing one other on tumblr with art of them dying in the other's arms, of seeing that last stand and being unable to stop it. Of screaming and grieving before going into that selfsame oblivion. AND THEY ALL DIED ALONE.

3. There was not a lot of music in this movie. Or at least not a lot of action music? That I remember? I'll need another viewing.

4. AND A HUG, OH GOD.

Yeah, I am probably never finishing that fic.

Date: 2014-12-19 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dbalthasar.livejournal.com
I think one of the things I really liked about the way the deaths were handled - and about the costs of all the battles in general - is that it's retroactive foreshadowing for LOTR? Thorin's line is wiped out in a heartbeat, not unworthily by any means - God, Thorin! - but quick and hard. If they can be snuffed out like that, what hope is there for Dain except to hide inside the mountain? Thranduil's army is decimated - what help can he send to anyone only 60/70 years later? He sent his son to Rivendell, and by this ending to the Fellowship, and that's sacrifice enough. The fight at Dol Guldur is why Elrond is so gloomy about their prospects: the entire White Council faced down Sauron, and the best they could do was to drive him back to Mordor, when they had their Rings and he didn't. If Galadriel couldn't take him, can anyone? For me, that's an extra dimension to the ending: it makes the later situation even worse.

Date: 2014-12-20 04:03 am (UTC)
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I had not thought of this perspective, but it makes really good/horrible sense. I had noticed in AUJ how Elrond is so much lighter and happier than in Fellowship, and wondered at the choice, since 60/75 years is really not that long for an elf, and this completely explains it.

*Shivers*

Date: 2014-12-23 12:47 am (UTC)
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Well, that and the growing realization that winning probably equals losing Arwen, but yes.

Date: 2014-12-23 12:47 am (UTC)
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RIGHT? The elvish storylines in this were just PERFECTION, and instead of cramming "btdubs, there's a WHOLE WORLD out there!" into one half paragraph at the very end of the book, we get the full picture, and that just makes LOTR stand up even better.

UGH, elf feelings.

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