John would ever think of changing Helen Magnus, the woman he fell in love with because she was a doctor and a thinker and ahead of her time
I have 10,004 problems with John's plan. Most of them are procedural and obviously a moot point since it got thwarted. Other problems are that, to me, it delves into non-con territory and I don't believe John's capable of that with Helen. More importantly to your post, though, the rest of my issues are exactly what you've landed on here. John has never given any major indication to the audience or to Helen that he wants her to change. I have no doubt that he will do anything to be with her because he loves her so dearly, but I do believe that he's intelligent enough to realize that returning to those pre-Source Blood times is not what Helen wants, nor is it particularly practical.
In the first half of the season, once he recovered from the massive quantities of drugs he took, he was under the influence of the energy being and simultaneously a good guy who was kind and cared about Helen. It doesn't fit, in my mind, to suddenly have this well-rounded character who can love and overcome his flaws turn into someone so flat with only a single goal in mind. Yes, there is a huge amount of history between the two that you can't ignore, and there's also the underlying "he's possessed by a crazy energy being and could go off the deep end any moment" tension, but I think that if both of them were willing to make the effort, they could make it work.
They could've reached the same "I love you, I will do anything to be with you" / "Get out of my life" exchange without devolving him as a character. I don't quite know how at this point, but I'm sure it could've been done with a little bit of thinking.
Because now they can't use him as a guy Helen can rely on or trust in any capacity. And he's played a huge role in the series as that guy. So I don't know what on earth is in store for that.
But if they do any sort of timey-wimey crap where Helen futzes with the timeline or does something so original!Helen isn't the one to survive, it's her duplicate from the timeline Adam created, and therefore has no knowledge of John's plan and HEY LOOK IT'S ALL FORGOTTEN, I'm going to be angry.
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Date: 2011-06-25 12:49 am (UTC)John would ever think of changing Helen Magnus, the woman he fell in love with because she was a doctor and a thinker and ahead of her time
I have 10,004 problems with John's plan. Most of them are procedural and obviously a moot point since it got thwarted. Other problems are that, to me, it delves into non-con territory and I don't believe John's capable of that with Helen. More importantly to your post, though, the rest of my issues are exactly what you've landed on here. John has never given any major indication to the audience or to Helen that he wants her to change. I have no doubt that he will do anything to be with her because he loves her so dearly, but I do believe that he's intelligent enough to realize that returning to those pre-Source Blood times is not what Helen wants, nor is it particularly practical.
In the first half of the season, once he recovered from the massive quantities of drugs he took, he was under the influence of the energy being and simultaneously a good guy who was kind and cared about Helen. It doesn't fit, in my mind, to suddenly have this well-rounded character who can love and overcome his flaws turn into someone so flat with only a single goal in mind. Yes, there is a huge amount of history between the two that you can't ignore, and there's also the underlying "he's possessed by a crazy energy being and could go off the deep end any moment" tension, but I think that if both of them were willing to make the effort, they could make it work.
They could've reached the same "I love you, I will do anything to be with you" / "Get out of my life" exchange without devolving him as a character. I don't quite know how at this point, but I'm sure it could've been done with a little bit of thinking.
Because now they can't use him as a guy Helen can rely on or trust in any capacity. And he's played a huge role in the series as that guy. So I don't know what on earth is in store for that.
But if they do any sort of timey-wimey crap where Helen futzes with the timeline or does something so original!Helen isn't the one to survive, it's her duplicate from the timeline Adam created, and therefore has no knowledge of John's plan and HEY LOOK IT'S ALL FORGOTTEN, I'm going to be angry.