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Jan. 21st, 2011
Because I should. I really, really should. Tesla describes him in season three as a stone cold killer, and that's just not true. Stone cold killers don't have that kind of rage. John is something else, and he's really kind of terrifying.
But I'm not scared of him. I imagine it's because Helen is not scared of him (well, at least she's not scared of what he might do to her).
There is one very important thing to keep in mind when you thinking about John. I've seen it get overlooked in fic from time to time, but I believe it is one of the absolutely necessary parts of his character. It's also a spoiler, so this will be the place where we go ( under a cut ).
What I'm left with is possibly the most complicated romantic relationship I've ever had to deal with on television. It's taken me nearly three weeks to write this, for example, and I've been 'shipping them since the pilot. And the weirdest part is that I shouldn't like it at all.
I have a well documented history of not liking this type of relationship (see also: Logan/Veronica, Buffy/Spike, Elena/Damon, Sookie/Eric, Kara/Lee, etc), and that's before I account for demonic possession or body switching. But when Logan describes his relationship with Veronica as "[...] epic, you know? You and me. Years, and continents. Lives ruined and blood shed.", he is looking to the future and hoping that this will be his story. Helen and John have already lived it (and I think that no small part of my love for them is that neither of them is even remotely close to being a teenager, eternal or otherwise), and they are too smart to want it to stay that way forever.
And that, I think, is the key difference. They have both done terrible things, though admittedly he's done a lot more than she has, and her terrible things typically have a silver lining to them. But they have this weird balancing effect on one another, and they've gone so far past love that it's not even a question of if anymore. Heck, I'm not even sure it's a question of when.
It's how. And that is ten kind of compelling.
But I'm not scared of him. I imagine it's because Helen is not scared of him (well, at least she's not scared of what he might do to her).
There is one very important thing to keep in mind when you thinking about John. I've seen it get overlooked in fic from time to time, but I believe it is one of the absolutely necessary parts of his character. It's also a spoiler, so this will be the place where we go ( under a cut ).
What I'm left with is possibly the most complicated romantic relationship I've ever had to deal with on television. It's taken me nearly three weeks to write this, for example, and I've been 'shipping them since the pilot. And the weirdest part is that I shouldn't like it at all.
I have a well documented history of not liking this type of relationship (see also: Logan/Veronica, Buffy/Spike, Elena/Damon, Sookie/Eric, Kara/Lee, etc), and that's before I account for demonic possession or body switching. But when Logan describes his relationship with Veronica as "[...] epic, you know? You and me. Years, and continents. Lives ruined and blood shed.", he is looking to the future and hoping that this will be his story. Helen and John have already lived it (and I think that no small part of my love for them is that neither of them is even remotely close to being a teenager, eternal or otherwise), and they are too smart to want it to stay that way forever.
And that, I think, is the key difference. They have both done terrible things, though admittedly he's done a lot more than she has, and her terrible things typically have a silver lining to them. But they have this weird balancing effect on one another, and they've gone so far past love that it's not even a question of if anymore. Heck, I'm not even sure it's a question of when.
It's how. And that is ten kind of compelling.
Because I should. I really, really should. Tesla describes him in season three as a stone cold killer, and that's just not true. Stone cold killers don't have that kind of rage. John is something else, and he's really kind of terrifying.
But I'm not scared of him. I imagine it's because Helen is not scared of him (well, at least she's not scared of what he might do to her).
There is one very important thing to keep in mind when you thinking about John. I've seen it get overlooked in fic from time to time, but I believe it is one of the absolutely necessary parts of his character. It's also a spoiler, so this will be the place where we go ( under a cut ).
What I'm left with is possibly the most complicated romantic relationship I've ever had to deal with on television. It's taken me nearly three weeks to write this, for example, and I've been 'shipping them since the pilot. And the weirdest part is that I shouldn't like it at all.
I have a well documented history of not liking this type of relationship (see also: Logan/Veronica, Buffy/Spike, Elena/Damon, Sookie/Eric, Kara/Lee, etc), and that's before I account for demonic possession or body switching. But when Logan describes his relationship with Veronica as "[...] epic, you know? You and me. Years, and continents. Lives ruined and blood shed.", he is looking to the future and hoping that this will be his story. Helen and John have already lived it (and I think that no small part of my love for them is that neither of them is even remotely close to being a teenager, eternal or otherwise), and they are too smart to want it to stay that way forever.
And that, I think, is the key difference. They have both done terrible things, though admittedly he's done a lot more than she has, and her terrible things typically have a silver lining to them. But they have this weird balancing effect on one another, and they've gone so far past love that it's not even a question of if anymore. Heck, I'm not even sure it's a question of when.
It's how. And that is ten kind of compelling.
But I'm not scared of him. I imagine it's because Helen is not scared of him (well, at least she's not scared of what he might do to her).
There is one very important thing to keep in mind when you thinking about John. I've seen it get overlooked in fic from time to time, but I believe it is one of the absolutely necessary parts of his character. It's also a spoiler, so this will be the place where we go ( under a cut ).
What I'm left with is possibly the most complicated romantic relationship I've ever had to deal with on television. It's taken me nearly three weeks to write this, for example, and I've been 'shipping them since the pilot. And the weirdest part is that I shouldn't like it at all.
I have a well documented history of not liking this type of relationship (see also: Logan/Veronica, Buffy/Spike, Elena/Damon, Sookie/Eric, Kara/Lee, etc), and that's before I account for demonic possession or body switching. But when Logan describes his relationship with Veronica as "[...] epic, you know? You and me. Years, and continents. Lives ruined and blood shed.", he is looking to the future and hoping that this will be his story. Helen and John have already lived it (and I think that no small part of my love for them is that neither of them is even remotely close to being a teenager, eternal or otherwise), and they are too smart to want it to stay that way forever.
And that, I think, is the key difference. They have both done terrible things, though admittedly he's done a lot more than she has, and her terrible things typically have a silver lining to them. But they have this weird balancing effect on one another, and they've gone so far past love that it's not even a question of if anymore. Heck, I'm not even sure it's a question of when.
It's how. And that is ten kind of compelling.